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"We are all fundamentally good. Yes, there are some rogues and sinners, but the heart itself is good," says Pope Francis. https://t.co/MmLPBhWVU2 pic.twitter.com/7Be2GrKrdB

— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) May 19, 2024

Bro, has the Pope even met people?

Does the Pope not realize that what goodnees he sees was hard-fought-for by his own church, and only possible by the grace of Our Lord as mediated by the Holy Spirit?

Does he not know that this is the good news that the gospels are named after?

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Just wanted to drop by and let you know that you get DOUBLE COINS TRIPLE COINS from votes during the birthgay event (for three days)! For people bad at math that means instead of getting 1 of something, you get 2 3! OMG.

Seems like this post inspired more concerned citizens !nooticers to come out of the woodwork to share their findings about Portland. If this was one of you guys, thanks for doing the lord's work. Ill probably start making these kinda posts in certain Bay Area subreddits.

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Here's the source image, morons whining about "inflation adjusted" despite obviously having no clue what that means

Whole thread.

They need to adjust for inflation.

Now compare to COL for each generation.

This means nothing without accounting for inflation. It doesn't matter if younger generations are making double if the prices of everything has quadrupled.  For the pedants I. Just saying double and quadruple as examples, not literally. 

This fool is onto nothing whatsoever:

And most of those gains are going to previous generations via housing

This twerp tries to double down:

Now do adjusted for inflation and add food, fuel, housing and healthcare to the CPI. Not just rent, not just net healthcare profit, not excluding fuel and electricity while offsetting it with cheap TVs.

It is adjusted {and a bit more yapping here}

I specifically called those things out because CPI doesn't cover those things. "Rent equivalent", "Excluded for volatility", and rural excluded pricing.

It includes all of those things you conspiratorial goober.

Look up how CPI is calculated and I'll accept your apology as confirmation that someone learned something. You can't take inflation rates at face value.

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This flop calls blue "red"

Lots of boomers in here can't handle the truth. Living now is Hard Mode compared to their experience.

Reminder that these mooks are certain socialism will solve all their problems and they're economic geniuses. Legitimately zero argument against locking them in gimp suits and milking them for stem cells btw.

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It's a mutually beneficial relationship.

Individuals provide society with productivity and the ability to fight. In return, society protects the individuals by pooling these resources together, which amplifies the benefits for everyone.

This is true of every system - capitalism, communism, socialism, etc. And also true for animal societies.

But when AGI happens, society no longer needs most individuals. Which means there is no incentive to take care of them.

Yup. When machines can do what the poors used to there's no reason to tolerate poors anymore.

This is only true if you measure value in terms of economic output.

Which most do. You also have value in terms of militarily output, but again I don't think poors (espically one getting fre gibs) are going to be in shape enough much less willing to serve.

I think that our values run deeper than that, even if so far we've used the wheel of productivity as a proxy for human flourishing. Now that the great decoupling has happened, it's time to rethink the appropriateness of the proxy and find a better human-centered system. Like switching from looking at GDP to things like Gini coefficients and other population well-being metrics. Once we can hook the AGI to these metrics, we can get to a post-scarcity world.

There's even less reason to tolerate the lower classes in a post scarcity world! You have literally no need for them and they fuck up your life by committing crimes and using up land!

Inb4: buh muh crime caused by poverty!

I don't think the AGI overlords will have the guts to wipe most of us out and living in an endless empty land by themselves without seeing or interacting with anyone They have eachother lmao.

You don't understand the contempt they have for the "useless eaters". All sorts of problems would be solved for them. Overfishing, pollution, crime, global warming etc. Earth would be a paradise for them.

Yup.

It's very interesting that these people in charge don't see how they would be the “useless eaters” in a dystopian scenario that involves any technological dark age.

Nobody cares if you are a big ceo in the wasteland….they'd rather have a plumber or mechanic any day in their group.

Oh my god Tv has brain rotted so many people. A world were CEO control AGI (and I'm assuming machines that the AGI can use to interact with the world at large) is one were the CEO rules like a king. He doesn't care what you think because you don't matter.

That's a very capitalist perspective. I think taking care of everyone shouldn't be predicated on what they can provide to society, but just because taking care of everyone is the right thing to do for empathetic reasons, and for the good of our species as a whole.

How is good for the species as a whole? Walk me thru this.

We need to move away from judging people's worth based on their productivity, or whatever nebulous "value" they offer to society.

Retarded.

Also, something most of the capital owning classes fail to realise when judging the worth of people, is that without resources the vast majority of people can't participate in the economy, and when the economy falters capital becomes meaningless. That is if no one is buying anything, because they don't have money, there's no profit and if there's no profit there's no investment, and if there's no investment capital ceases to be meaningful.

None of which matters in a world were you can order your robot army to go mine some gold for you.

It's not just productivity that makes the lower classes important.

It's that and being cannon fodder.

If there are fewer and fewer jobs available thanks to AGI (or whatever), then it is only logical to provide the lower classes with a universal income. Because otherwise the economy would collapse.

Or all the money would simply move to the upper classes.

well, if AGI does everything for us, and it's intelligent enough to understand human needs and psychology, don't forget to include "Therapy/counseling/economics" are also things it can handle for us. Humans don't have the will to give out UBI because AGI is doing everything for us? Well AGI might have the will to do it for us, even if the current elite class who controls society doesn't.

Lol no. No one is going to let their WMD level AI just decide to be a libtard.

Humans lose the ability to socialize and fend for themselves because AGI provides all our needs? seems like AGI needs to be taught to coax us to interact and socialize with other humans and rely on it minimally for social needs.

These people are mental children, endlessly looking for a new tit to suckle at.

Doesnt AGI require everyones input though? All that data... its not like a bunch of dorks are re-writing all hustory in a basement. Thats years and years and years of information - provided by the likes of you and me - that AI is using. In effect, it very much requires us, and is also owned by us. No?

No!

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what are some examples of novels that criticize capitalism and that are considered classics? i'm genuinely curious (3)

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They're both TERRIBLE literature.  (47)

Really? How so?I never understood all the hate. Didn't finish the book, but it was pretty decent imho. Cool/creative story. (0)

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Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift is mostly a satire of the more left-wing Enlightenment thinkers and Whig Party politics. I'm more left-wing, and that was about the only piece of right-wing satire I've seen that I thought was actually done well. (46)

I am going off of very foggy recollections of my sophomore lit classes but would it be safe to place another of his works, “A Modest Proposal”, as more in line with modern day leftist thought? He's skewering the idea of helping the poor and hungry with state resources and (/s, obviously) advocates for feeding the poor and solving overpopulation with cooked babies. (0)

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Mishima is 100% hardcore right-wing. Even tried to stage a coup to restore the monarch and killed himself because it failed. (60)

To be fair, I think the word "staged" doesn't get nearly enough credit here. Mishima dedicated pretty much his entire adult life to the cultivation of his self as an aesthetic object, and it's hard not to see that including the manner of his death.It would be insufficient to call it "performance art", because that might imply that he wasn't somehow sincere in his stated politics or whatever, and I don't think that's true. But I don't think the point of the "coup" was ever to achieve a successful material change in government or anything like that; if anything, Mishima wanted to change people's consciousnesses through the wanton spectacle of his death.And maybe unintentionally, the way he died was beautifully ironic given the way we've valorised that spectacle vis a vis the image of his external politics and his philosophy of the aesthetic cultivation of the body: he failed to disembowel himself properly, his kaishakunin failed to behead him cleanly, and he died in agony. In the mome... (8)

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Crime and Punishment is weird because it keeps telling you over and over how stupid the communist character is but never once is he shown to be anything but very intelligent. (102)

I don't agree with Dostoyevsky's reason for that characterization, but from what I remember that character (I don't exactly remember if he was a communist or just a liberal/Russian nihilist) is comically myopic and stubborn in his worldview. For example, there is a period when a certain character dies and he goes on to lecture grieving family members about how there shouldn't be a burial rite (or something to that effect) because those are grounded in religious traditions which his brand of politics/philosophy rejects entirely. (Similar moments include him lecturing some women about not marrying IIRC.) I mean fine if you hold those views, but Dostoyevsky's "ridicule" of him works because he's (the character) so dogmatic, ridiculously over-the-top and downright inhumane about his feminism and atheism. Of course, for those of us who differ vastly in our worldview and beliefs from Dostoyevsky, none of this calculated ridicule will make his conservative religious pitch any more intriguing. (32)

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Sure, heinlein criticizes communism, but to extrapolate anti-Chinese racism from a critique of communism is an insane leap of logic and, I might add, mildly racist in and of itself. (0)

Here's a paper by a political science professor on East Asian xenophobia in Heinlein's works (not limited to Starship Troopers) https://journals.openedition.org/ejas/16749Heinlein comes from a different time, he came from a military family in the age of the Korean and Vietnamese war, and I know his politics over time changed some and he became more humanist in general over time, but his early works reek of racismIt's been a long time since I've read either book, but in one of the introductions to either Starship Troopers or Forever War, they had quotes from Heinlein where he was specifically critiquing Chinese communism. Sure, the way communism swept China was unique, as all revolutions are unique, but the singling out of it is more than suspect (2)

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