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EFFORTPOST Justice4Darrell subreddit mentioned in Darrell Brooks trial

https://old.reddit.com/r/Justice4Darrell/comments/ycwa43/i_am_a_member_of_the_jury_on_this_case_here_are/?sort=controversial

As part of the record...

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684135695272627.webp

News Articles

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840 - tweet from Law & Crime Network producer

https://fox11online.com/news/crime/anonymous-reddit-post-claims-to-be-juror-in-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial

https://abc7chicago.com/waukesha-parade-attack-darrell-brooks-trial-closing-arguments-wi/12374834/

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-darrell-brooks-judge-orders-investigation-into-reddit-group-justice4darrell-claiming-to-be-working-with-a-juror-to-nullify-trial

https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/live-updates-day-17-of-darrell-brooks-jr-s-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial/article_9f01e3de-5468-11ed-a003-57996fc5ecc0.html

https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-juror-reddit-jury/

https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/waukesha/2022/10/25/takeaways-on-day-17-of-darrell-brooks-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial/69588410007/

https://www.newsweek.com/can-reddit-post-impact-darrell-brooks-case-1755265

https://mashable.com/article/darrell-brooks-trial-reddit-fake-juror-post

https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/26/waukesha-trial-reddit-juror/

https://www.fox6now.com/news/darrell-brooks-trial-jury-instructions-closing-arguments-10252022

https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/brooks-asks-for-mistrial-over-justice4darrell-subreddit-post/article_e7156614-553a-11ed-b90f-7ba9e281941d.html

https://abc7chicago.com/waukesha-parade-attack-darrell-brooks-jury-verdict-trial/12379820/

https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-juror-reddit-jury/

https://www.insider.com/reddit-post-almost-derailed-darrell-brooks-trial-2022-10

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7bxdz/darrell-brooks-kicked-out-of-trial - brief mention here

rDrama threads

https://rdrama.net/h/museumofrdrama/post/116675/recap-of-how-the-marseycapychad2-made - recap

https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court

https://rdrama.net/post/116587/600-comments-and-counting-on-the

https://rdrama.net/post/116672/marseypeace-me-yeah-i-am-gonna

https://rdrama.net/post/116683/rjustice4darell-banned-reclassified

https://rdrama.net/post/116641/siren-marseyobjection-marseyitsover-siren-bait-sub

https://rdrama.net/post/116648/official-law-and-crime-youtube-video

https://rdrama.net/post/116685/heymoonster-is-currently-microwaving-his-harddrives

https://rdrama.net/post/116643/rsubredditdrama-is-behind-the-justice4darrell-subreddit

https://rdrama.net/post/116687/-

https://rdrama.net/post/116625/the-juror-guy-pussied-out-lmao

https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court

https://rdrama.net/post/116525/rekieta-law-talked-about-the-rjustice4darrell [in 10/25 stream it's around the 2:05 mark iirc]

https://rdrama.net/post/116659/a-bluecheck-journo-calls-out-rdrama

https://rdrama.net/post/116711/what-pol-thinks-of-us

https://rdrama.net/post/116745/someone-please-help-me-i-think

https://rdrama.net/post/116833/seriously-frick-you-all-if-a

https://rdrama.net/post/117251/the-waukesha-incident-brooksannoyed-the-story/ - @HeyMoon's perspective

Chronological Updates

2022-10-25 7:21 PM CT: 35,000 users on the subreddit now

/images/16667437066297963.webp

7:45 CT: the pinned post now links to http://rdrama.org

Edit 8:17 PM: https://old.reddit.com/r/Justice4Darrell/

The subreddit has now been banned for violating the mod code of conduct

/images/1666747063739747.webp

Edit 8:45 PM:

Producer from Law & Crime Network shouts out

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840

Edit 8:59 PM: /r/SubredditDrama post: https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ydk0on/op_outs_himself_as_a_juror_in_the_current_darrell/?sort=controversial

Edit 9:11 PM:

Video from Law & Crime Network

Edit 9:58

holy shit there are so many notifications

/images/16667531136561904.webp

Edit 10:03 PM: a /pol/ thread https://archived.moe/pol/thread/401526530 (archive: https://archived.moe/pol/thread/401526530)

Edit 10:37 PM: OutOfTheLoop post: https://old.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/ydn6n8/whats_up_with_rjusticefordarrell_and/?sort=controversial

Edit 10:43 PM: LegalAdviceOffTopic post: https://old.reddit.com/r/legaladviceofftopic/comments/ydl028/what_legal_consequences_could_the_author_of_the/?sort=controversial

Edit 11:09 PM: http://patriots.win post: https://patriots.win/p/15K6guJTho/rjustice4darrell-the-pro-darrell/c/

Edit 2022-10-26 12:30 AM: /h/museumofrdrama post from @SlackerNews: https://rdrama.net/h/museumofrdrama/post/116675/recap-of-how-the-marseycapychad2-made

Edit 12:49 AM: reformatting to clean up

Edit 2:14 AM: WebSleuths forum post: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/wi-darrell-brooks-rams-car-into-holiday-parade-crowd-6-dead-61-injured-waukesha-4.641370/page-14#post-17847459 (and add Fox and Daily Caller article)

Edit 9:03 AM: Darrell Brooks asks for mistrial because of reddit post, is denied

Edit 9:52 AM: Following this event, user @weev has verifiably joined the site https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks/2964338?context=8#context

Edit 10:32 AM: added a link

Edit 11:50 AM: added a couple more links to news articles

Edit 10/27 2:29 PM: added Insider article

Edit 2:53 PM: added Vice article

Edit 6:19 PM: added post talking from @HeyMoon's perspective

Edit 6:21 PM: formatting adjustments, move rdrama threads to own section, etc

Edit 6:30 PM: add newsweek and mashable articles

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:marseyglow:

Tbh, I'm surprised rdrama managed to make something out of this. I never thought we would ever make another successful bait sub again.

Disclaimer: Note that I'm only discussing the drama, I was not involved in the Justice4Darrell drama nor am I open for any journo interviews. Cite this page if you'd like.

Anyway, here's a recap of everything I saved. Did I miss anything? Comment below. @jannies pls pin. Check the bold link for an archive.


News coverage (obligatory /h/mnn plug):

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840 - tweet from Law & Crime Network producer

https://abc7chicago.com/waukesha-parade-attack-darrell-brooks-trial-closing-arguments-wi/12374834/

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-darrell-brooks-judge-orders-investigation-into-reddit-group-justice4darrell-claiming-to-be-working-with-a-juror-to-nullify-trial

https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/live-updates-day-17-of-darrell-brooks-jr-s-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial/article_9f01e3de-5468-11ed-a003-57996fc5ecc0.html

https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-juror-reddit-jury/

https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/waukesha/2022/10/25/takeaways-on-day-17-of-darrell-brooks-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial/69588410007/

https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/26/waukesha-trial-reddit-juror/

https://www.fox6now.com/news/darrell-brooks-trial-jury-instructions-closing-arguments-10252022


https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks/2960424?context=8#context

Thanks @volcel



More from @justcool393

https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks


More links:

https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks/2964338?context=8#context

https://rdrama.net/post/116770/ragedlikemilk-marseywholesomemarseywholesomemarseywholesome

https://rdrama.net/post/116762/-

https://rdrama.net/post/116760/dear-federal-agents-i-challenge-you

https://rdrama.net/h/mnn/post/116759/darrell-brooks-trial-day-17-waukesha

https://rdrama.net/post/116757/-

https://rdrama.net/post/116753/bring-back-rjustice4darrell-justice4brooks

https://rdrama.net/post/116749/to-any-federal-agent-visiting-this

https://old.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/ydo4gk/whats_going_on_with_the_subreddit/?sort=controversial

https://rdrama.net/post/116745/someone-please-help-me-i-think

https://rdrama.net/post/116746/paging-snappys-parent-marseythinkorino-marseysnappyautism

https://rdrama.net/post/116744/we-gon-get-raided-for-real

https://twitter.com/wavywebsurf/status/1585077209764487168

https://rdrama.net/post/116737/-

https://rdrama.net/post/116710/found-a-picture-of-the-juror

https://rdrama.net/post/116711/what-pol-thinks-of-us

https://rdrama.net/post/116727/the-fbi-flew-over-my-house

https://rdrama.net/post/116729/juror-5s-reddit-account

https://rdrama.net/post/116731/our-latest-cry-for-attention-has

https://rdrama.net/post/116732/ummmchudbrosi-think-we-made-a-mistake

https://rdrama.net/post/116733/mfw-i-just-got-darrell-brooks

https://rdrama.net/post/116685/heymoonster-is-currently-microwaving-his-harddrives

https://rdrama.net/post/116708/you-know-who-you-are-trying

https://rdrama.net/post/116709/rsubredditdrama-calls-out-rdramanet-by-name

https://rdrama.net/post/116706/post-your-favorite-screen-caps-from

https://rdrama.net/post/116705/survived-justice4darrell-still-want-to-keep

https://rdrama.net/post/116702/mods-and-admins-are-moving-any

https://rdrama.net/post/116696/top-7-tips-for-talking-to

https://rdrama.net/post/116697/video-review-of-rjustice4darrell-ive-been

https://rdrama.net/post/116692/inmarseybee4-marseymugshotmarseymugshotmarseymugshotmarseymugshotmarseymugshotmarseymugshot

https://rdrama.net/post/116698/-

https://rdrama.net/post/116672/marseypeace-me-yeah-i-am-gonna

https://rdrama.net/post/116683/rjustice4darell-banned-reclassified

https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ydk0on/op_outs_himself_as_a_juror_in_the_current_darrell/?sort=controversial

https://rdrama.net/post/116681/what-the-frick-did-we-do

https://rdrama.net/post/116678/top-minds-discuss-the-banning-of

https://rdrama.net/post/116658/some-brave-dramachad-made-an-archive

https://rdrama.net/post/116665/marseypumpkinglow-marseyjolteon-this-was-truly-a

https://rdrama.net/post/116670/i-thought-that-rdrama-had-gotten

https://rdrama.net/post/116671/waukesha-county-da-announce-they-will

https://rdrama.net/post/116659/a-bluecheck-journo-calls-out-rdrama

https://rdrama.net/post/116651/i-look-forward-to-the-as

https://rdrama.net/post/116650/-

https://rdrama.net/post/116649/greetings-federal-agents

https://rdrama.net/post/116648/official-law-and-crime-youtube-video

https://rdrama.net/post/116647/glowies-and-jannies-take-down-rjustice4darrell

https://rdrama.net/post/116642/marseyitsover

https://rdrama.net/post/116641/siren-marseyobjection-marseyitsover-siren

https://rdrama.net/post/116640/justice4darrell-got-jannied

https://rdrama.net/post/116638/rjustice4darrell-banned-rip-in-peace-brooksannoyed

https://rdrama.net/post/116637/justice4darrell-banned-marseyjanny

https://rdrama.net/post/116636/justice4darrel-banned

https://rdrama.net/post/116634/timestamp-rjustice4darrell-is-referenced-in-the

https://rdrama.net/post/116631/sardines-cope-and-seethe-about-our

https://rdrama.net/post/116630/whats-better-than-getting-law-enforcement

https://rdrama.net/post/116628/i-am-going-to-take-darrell

https://rdrama.net/post/116627/why-the-frick-would-you-put

https://rdrama.net/post/116625/the-juror-guy-pussied-out-lmao

https://rdrama.net/post/116623/breaking-darrell-brooks-judge-orders-investigation

https://rdrama.net/post/116615/rightoid-with-18-million-twitter-followers

https://rdrama.net/post/116621/the-future-of-rjustice4darrell-megathread

https://rdrama.net/h/random/post/116611/666-get-marseysoypoint

https://rdrama.net/post/116603/fox-news-anonymous-reddit-post-claims

https://rdrama.net/post/116597/a-journo-has-saw-justice4darrel-and

https://rdrama.net/post/116593/an-important-note-for-the-wisconsin

https://rdrama.net/post/116591/whoever-mods-rjustice4darrell-please-pin-rdramanet

https://rdrama.net/post/116589/account-with-115k-followers-calls-out

https://rdrama.net/post/116587/600-comments-and-counting-on-the

https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court

https://rdrama.net/post/116584/record-scratch-yup-thats-us-youre

https://rdrama.net/post/116584/record-scratch-yup-thats-us-youre

https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks

https://rdrama.net/post/116579/justice4darrel-gets-mentioned-in-the-court

https://rdrama.net/post/116576/shes-talking-about-the-juror-thread

https://rdrama.net/post/116538/rjustice4darrell-appears-on-destinys-stream-time

https://rdrama.net/post/116525/rekieta-law-talked-about-the-rjustice4darrell

https://rdrama.net/post/116521/rekietalaw-on-rjustice4darrell

https://rdrama.net/post/116518/siren-siren-siren-brooks-closing-arguments

https://rdrama.net/post/116464/the-srdines-are-catching-onmarseyworried

https://rdrama.net/post/116463/please-upvote-and-discuss-this-post

https://rdrama.net/post/116421/look-at-how-long-i-was

https://rdrama.net/h/random/post/116417/marseyoctopus2-average-redditor-cant-tell-the

https://rdrama.net/post/116407/things-are-getting-weird-over-at

https://rdrama.net/post/116327/evidence-of-grounds-for-darrell-brooks

https://rdrama.net/post/116251/is-rjustice4darrell-serious-truecrime-jannied-already

https://rdrama.net/post/116239/marseymemeball-she-said-she-was-18

https://rdrama.net/post/116239/marseymemeball-she-said-she-was-18

https://rdrama.net/post/116221/someone-post-this-to-rjustice4darrell

https://rdrama.net/post/116159/justice4darrell-is-raking-in-so-many

https://rdrama.net/post/116052/marseygigachad-marseygigachad-marseygigachad-marseygigachad-marseygigachad-expect

https://rdrama.net/post/115986/which-one-of-you-is-this

https://rdrama.net/post/115783/who-wants-to-take-one-for

https://rdrama.net/post/115745/crowdfunding-srd-bait-response

https://rdrama.net/post/115743/topmindsofreddit-discusses-our-bait

https://rdrama.net/post/115740/srdines-discuss-rjustice4darrell-the-subreddit-made

https://rdrama.net/post/115679/psa-for-justice4darrell-please-read

https://rdrama.net/post/115595/weve-been-had-rcentrist-is-discussing

https://rdrama.net/post/115565/rdramatards-trying-their-best-not-to

https://rdrama.net/post/115526/offering-1k-dramacoin-to-whoever-creates

https://rdrama.net/post/115500/i-linked-my-baitpost-from-the

https://rdrama.org/h/random/post/115480/wake-up-honey-your-daily-copepost

There @Landlord_Messiah, we answered your question when you asked when was the last time we made a successful troll op on Twitter? The answer is Today landlet! :marseycapitalistmanlet: :marseylaugh:

https://twitter.com/LLMessiah_/status/1580237932140429318#m

https://rdrama.net/post/115421/landchud-is-sad-nobody-asked-him

https://rdrama.net/post/115416/can-you-tell-if-these-posters

https://rdrama.net/post/115401/reminder-that-the-rjustice4darrell-bait-is

https://rdrama.net/post/115150/rjustice4darrell-bait-has-been-taken

https://rdrama.net/post/115090/made-rjustice4darrell


https://old.reddit.com/r/Justice4Darrell/comments/ycwa43/i_am_a_member_of_the_jury_on_this_case_here_are/?sort=controversial

As part of the record...

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841353884381847.webp

News Articles

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840 - tweet from Law & Crime Network producer

https://abc7chicago.com/waukesha-parade-attack-darrell-brooks-trial-closing-arguments-wi/12374834/

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-darrell-brooks-judge-orders-investigation-into-reddit-group-justice4darrell-claiming-to-be-working-with-a-juror-to-nullify-trial

https://www.gmtoday.com/the_freeman/news/live-updates-day-17-of-darrell-brooks-jr-s-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial/article_9f01e3de-5468-11ed-a003-57996fc5ecc0.html

https://heavy.com/news/darrell-brooks-juror-reddit-jury/

https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/waukesha/2022/10/25/takeaways-on-day-17-of-darrell-brooks-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial/69588410007/

https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/26/waukesha-trial-reddit-juror/

https://www.fox6now.com/news/darrell-brooks-trial-jury-instructions-closing-arguments-10252022

Chronological updates as the post was made

7:21 PM CT: 35,000 users on the subreddit now

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7:45 CT: the pinned post now links to http://rdrama.org

News articles:

https://fox11online.com/news/crime/anonymous-reddit-post-claims-to-be-juror-in-waukesha-christmas-parade-trial

Edit 8:17 PM: https://old.reddit.com/r/Justice4Darrell/

The subreddit has now been banned for violating the mod code of conduct

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Edit 8:45 PM:

Producer from Law & Crime Network shouts out

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1585071740769955840

Edit 8:59 PM: /r/SubredditDrama post: https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ydk0on/op_outs_himself_as_a_juror_in_the_current_darrell/?sort=controversial

rdrama threads:

https://rdrama.net/h/museumofrdrama/post/116675/recap-of-how-the-marseycapychad2-made - recap

https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court

https://rdrama.net/post/116587/600-comments-and-counting-on-the

https://rdrama.net/post/116672/marseypeace-me-yeah-i-am-gonna

https://rdrama.net/post/116683/rjustice4darell-banned-reclassified

https://rdrama.net/post/116641/siren-marseyobjection-marseyitsover-siren-bait-sub

https://rdrama.net/post/116648/official-law-and-crime-youtube-video

https://rdrama.net/post/116685/heymoonster-is-currently-microwaving-his-harddrives

https://rdrama.net/post/116643/rsubredditdrama-is-behind-the-justice4darrell-subreddit

https://rdrama.net/post/116687/-

https://rdrama.net/post/116625/the-juror-guy-pussied-out-lmao

https://rdrama.net/post/116585/clip-justice4darrell-mention-in-the-court

https://rdrama.net/post/116525/rekieta-law-talked-about-the-rjustice4darrell [in 10/25 stream it's around the 2:05 mark iirc]

https://rdrama.net/post/116659/a-bluecheck-journo-calls-out-rdrama

https://rdrama.net/post/116711/what-pol-thinks-of-us

https://rdrama.net/post/116745/someone-please-help-me-i-think

https://rdrama.net/post/116833/seriously-frick-you-all-if-a - trolls trolling trolls

Edit 9:11 PM:

Video from Law & Crime Network

Edit 9:58

holy shit there are so many notifications

/images/16667531136561904.webp

Edit 10:03 PM: a /pol/ thread https://archived.moe/pol/thread/401526530 (archive: https://archived.moe/pol/thread/401526530)

Edit 10:37 PM: OutOfTheLoop post: https://old.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/ydn6n8/whats_up_with_rjusticefordarrell_and/?sort=controversial

Edit 10:43 PM: LegalAdviceOffTopic post: https://old.reddit.com/r/legaladviceofftopic/comments/ydl028/what_legal_consequences_could_the_author_of_the/?sort=controversial

Edit 11:09 PM: http://patriots.win post: https://patriots.win/p/15K6guJTho/rjustice4darrell-the-pro-darrell/c/

Edit 10/26 12:30 AM: /h/museumofrdrama post from @SlackerNews: https://rdrama.net/h/museumofrdrama/post/116675/recap-of-how-the-marseycapychad2-made

Edit 12:49 AM: reformatting to clean up

Edit 2:14 AM: WebSleuths forum post: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/wi-darrell-brooks-rams-car-into-holiday-parade-crowd-6-dead-61-injured-waukesha-4.641370/page-14#post-17847459 (and add Fox and Daily Caller article)

Edit 9:03 AM: Darrell Brooks asks for mistrial because of reddit post, is denied

Edit 9:52 AM: Following this event, user @weev has verifiably joined the site https://rdrama.net/post/116580/justice4darrell-subreddit-mentioned-in-darrell-brooks/2964338?context=8#context

Edit 10:32 AM: added a link

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EFFORTPOST [Effort] How one autist embarrassed an entire team of Microsoft programmers

Some background

When they're not busy designing pride flags the folx at Microsoft spend their time coding shitty software. Among these is the new Windows Terminal.

Casey Muratori is a programmer who, despite never releasing anything, clearly considers himself to be some kind of genius.

With that out of the way, here's the drama:

ACT 1: THE ISSUE

Frustrated with the slowness of Windows Terminal when printing colors, Casey submits a github issue. He even develops a benchmark application to accurately measure the speed.

After a bit of back and forth Casey starts to becomes frustrated:

Am I missing something? Why is all this stuff with "runs of characters" happening at all? Why would you ever need to separate the background from the foreground for performance reasons? It really seems like most of the code in the parser/renderer part of the terminal is unnecessary and just slows things down. What this code needs to do is extremely simple and it seems like it has been massively overcomplicated.

He receives this legendary response:

I believe what you’re doing is describing something that might be considered an entire doctoral research project in performant terminal emulation as “extremely simple” somewhat combatively. I am not aware of the body of work around performant GPU terminal emulation

Casey gets angry:

When we're at the stage when something that can be implemented in a weekend is described as "a doctoral research project", and then I am accused of "impugning the reader" for describing something as simple that is extremely simple, we're done. Consider the bug report closed.

After which a different Microsoft employee goes in on him:

You were overly confident in your opinion, but I hope [what I linked] helps you understand that it's actually really darn hard.

Basically the whole team agrees that what is being asked of them is extremely difficult. While Casey is insistent that it's trivially simple.

So who is right? A team of senior engineers in a trillion dollar company or a reclusive game dev?

ACT 2: A WEEKEND PROJECT

Casey tweets the following:

I take back literally everything I said about Microsoft taking an interest in fixing their terminal.https://t.co/K9ojvy1liX

— Casey Muratori (@cmuratori) June 17, 2021

And, over the following weekend, he implements from scratch a terminal that works in the way he proposed. It's ~100x faster than Windows Terminal:

(video timestamped to the part with the pretty colors, although the rest is fun too)

Twitter thread with some juicy questions from the audiance

Then this happens:

Afterward, the same dev [lhecker] also used a fake name to hang out on our groomercord and talk about Windows Terminal without telling anyone who he was. I figured it out and confronted them, and they failed to see anything wrong with that behavior. It's a really special team they have there.

— Casey Muratori (@cmuratori) May 6, 2022

ACT 3: MICROSOFT BENDS THE KNEE

Over the following months, there is an embarrassed silence from the Microsoft team. Eventually they release a blogpost basically admitting they were wrong, but don't mention Casey by name. Note that the person making the post is the one who snuck into Casey's groomercord.

Casey tweets:

When I tell the Windows Terminal team something is simple, I am "misguided", being "somewhat combative" and am "impugning the reader". But a year later when they call the exact same thing "trivial", that is just, you know, them writing a blog post:https://t.co/AXrgZjvUPT pic.twitter.com/UTDrD9s0o6

— Casey Muratori (@cmuratori) May 6, 2022

And finally one of them makes a post on Hacker News seething about the whole thing. Quotes:

We get it, Microsoft sucks, we should all be fired, rah rah rah.
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Casey, I'm sorry. We made a mistake. I made a mistake! We didn't know what we didn't know, and thought we were clever enough to pass for it.
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I just don't know what else he's asking for here. Credit? Us to die screaming? The blog post is matter-of-fact, and Casey is right: however, he said himself that it was trivial to do this. Is it not acceptable that we use the same language?

Truly a new low for Microsoft.


Want more nerd drama? See the previous post in this series.

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Several years ago,:marseystarbucks: did a little oopsy by calling the cops on 2 black men who refused to buy coffee or leave the store. This is completely legal, but it made them look bad, and so corporate did some typical damage control and got ratio'd on :marseybluecheck::

:marseystarbucks: will close its more than 8,000 company-owned U.S. stores on the afternoon of May 29 to provide to its nearly 175,000 U.S. employees “racial-bias education geared toward preventing discrimination.” Both Starbucks founder Howard Schultz and CEO Kevin Johnson have apologized on behalf of the Seattle coffeehouse giant.

In recent days, :marseystarbucks: also officially declared a “Use of the Third Place Policy,” making it clear that anyone is a customer and is welcome to use its store space, including bathrooms, regardless of whether one makes a purchase.

“We are committed to creating a culture of warmth and belonging where everyone is welcome,” the statement said. “We want our stores to be the third place.”

The Third Place Policy whose URL now results in a server error, meant that :marseywagie: would no longer be able to kick out customers who failed to make a purchase. The obvious then happened:

But as I have sat at different :marseystarbucks: locations in New York lately and overheard conversations around me, I witnessed firsthand a new scene that I hadn't quite observed before: At times, stores were mostly occupied by non-paying customers with their own drinks and food while some paying customers looked puzzled and left frustrated without finding a seat. I have also seen customers inside a store being openly solicited for money. :marseystinky::marseyblack::marseysad::!marseystinky::!marseykween: source

The same writer did another followup piece a year and a half later which sources the least surprising study ever:

Monthly visits to :marseystarbucks: dropped 6.8% compared with other nearby coffee shops after the open-bathroom policy was put in place in May 2018

With the free bathroom access, the researchers looked at the proximity of a given :marseystarbucks: store to a homeless shelter and found that customer traffic declined at almost double the rate at stores closest to homeless shelters versus those farthest away.

Customer traffic wasn’t the only thing that was hurt. The average income of Starbucks’ customers has dropped compared with the average income of other nearby coffee shops, thanks to fewer visits from “its wealthier clientele.”

The full report is 43 pages, and everyone involved could have saved a lot of time by submitting the sentence "homeless people are stinky" to peer review instead.

Shortly after, :marseystarbucks: closed its (bathroom) doors

Now, the coffee chain is effectively saying it can’t be America’s public potty any longer.

And, because an rdrama post wouldn't be complete without :marseysnoo:, here's a couple posts from baristas whining about the homeless:

Let me start this off by saying I have nothing against the homeless. I feel for them, I really do. But my store has a homeless couple that comes in every day and stays from open to close. They usually come in, set their 3 or 4 giant trash bags of belongings in a corner and hog the cushioned seats in the corner literally all day. What really bugs me is that they're constantly making out. Like, sloppy, slobbery, making out. We've had several customer complaints about it and I've asked my manager about it and she basically said as long as they're buying coffee they're good. Anything I can do about this?+17

:!marseylaugh::marseywagie: :marseystinky::!marseystinky: CLEAN IT UP

a not so gentle reminder that unhoused people are people too. if they are in the cafe, leave them the frick alone and mind your business. provide them with the same hospitality you give to every other customer. the unhoused are no different. as long as they aren’t doing something inappropriate or being disrespectful to you, other partners, and the customers, they can stay as long as they please until closing. don’t bother them if they are outside sitting down either. don’t be a peepee is what i am trying to say here. this isn’t a store issue, this is a human decency issue. +751

Every single post is bowing and scraping in subservience to the unhousedchads stinking up the place. Good thing for Redditors the stench doesn't travel over computer monitors or it might break their bubble of moral authority.

grande rant: homeless customers

i try to have sympathy for them but at this point its very hard. i feel bad for being bothered by them, but i need to rant for a minute.

they usually order a venti or trenta water but get quite angry if we dont give it to them the second after they ordered it.

they also walk through our drive thru and ask customers for money.

sometimes they just come and stare at us through the windows or do drugs in our parking lot and our male shifts have to go scare them off. :marseygigachad:

not so much now, but earlier in the pandemic they would come up without maks and cough on us. or they would come up with a mask on but take it off just to cough on us before putting it back on. :marseychad:

they used to steal our tip jars :marseygigachad:

The homeless are people. Talk to them and explain the rules you have to enforce. Learn their names. Just like anyone else if they are treated with dignity they may treat you with respect as well.

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Background: Stacey Abrams has tried and failed twice now to become Governor of Georgia, (:marseylaugh:) but is nonetheless a Democrat darling. She's an actress, successful (allegedly) writer, and founder of multiple companies. She also started a nonprofit, Fair Fight Action, credited with flipping the state blue during 2020. Oh, and she's hideous:

I did a little digging, and turns out she was doing a Donald Trump impersonation before DDR even thought to claim rigged elections:

:marseykween: "It's more than just delegitimizing the results of an election," Abrams said.

:marseykween: "Donald Trump is trying to rig the future... And I knew that in 2020, the two cornerstone issues for our democracy would be making sure we have a fair election and a fair count in the census."

when i lose it's because the whole thing is rigged :marseysad: :marseybrainlet: She doesn't like the DDR comparisons though:

"The issues that I raised in 2018 were not grounded in making me the governor,” Abrams told The 19th’s Editor-at-Large Errin Haines at a Monday event. “Not a single lawsuit filed would have reversed or changed the outcome of the election. My point was that the access to the election was flawed, and I refuse to concede a system that permits citizens to be denied access. That is very different than someone claiming fraudulent outcome.”

cope

On a presidential run, :marseykween: says she feels she has to consider it b/c people like her aren’t frequently mentioned, & tshe has much to offer. Then, discussing her credentials, she added a possible Beto reference: “I did win my election, I just didn’t get to have the job.”

Top replies to said tweet:

And let’s be blunt, shall we? The @DNC knows he can flip some ‘red’ states. When he wins the Democratic nomination, on general election night, mark my words. We will watch as Bernie flips states on the electoral map that have NEVER gone blue. People want to talk a blue tsunami? :marseybluecheck:


Your race and gender does not entitle you to win an election. Being a whiny sore loser is not being a good role model. Shame on you.


What do they call that, at the end of an election when you don't get the job??? Oh right, they call that losing.

This twitter thread is a goldmine, but anyways. Apparently she has still never conceded the 2018 election. Not only that, she sued the guy who won and spent $25M on the lawsuit. Not only did she lose, she also gave about $10M to a law firm run by a buddy of hers.

:marseykween: never conceded the election, but she did change her mind about being President:

:marseykween: "What I regret every day is that we could not stop [Brian Kemp] from bastardizing this whole process, from denying the franchise to those who had earned it by being Americans and tried to use the right to vote to set the course of their futures," she said. "And I will always be deeply, deeply hurt that we live in a nation that permitted that to happen."

When did you come to the decision not to run for president?

I’ve been thinking about this for the last few weeks, and I’ve just come to the decision that my best value add, the strongest contribution I can give to this primary, would be to make sure our nominee is coming into an environment where there’s strong voter protections in place. source

two years later STILL seething, amazing. She was then voter-suppressed out of being chosen for VP by literally all of the running candidates, and went on to start an INCREDIBLY sketchy business that raised $30M in funding:

Abrams co-founded Nourish, Inc. in 2010. Originally conceived as a beverage company with a focus on infants and toddlers, it was later rebranded as Now and pivoted its business model to an invoicing solution for small businesses. wikipedia

I suspect the pivot was because a company with an actual product would be harder to hide money in. I literally cannot find any evidence that it still exists, no links on websites, no nothing. I'd be astonished to hear that any business has gotten a loan from the millions it raised. She also has a nonprofit which has failed to file tax returns as well as other sketchy shit. The :marseytrump: comparisons just keep racking up :marseyschizowall:

Now, in 2022, she decided to run for governor again and lost was voter suppressed by a 7 point margin, which is just fricking brutal :marseyxd:

Abrams and Kemp had their first of two scheduled debates on October 17. In the debate, Abrams emphasized her support for gun control and legal access to abortion, while Kemp emphasized Georgia's economy under his governorship and his anti-crime proposals.

Just completely out of touch. No wonder she lost so hard, to the SAME GUY no less, after spending literally a hundred million dollars on her own campaign. It's really fascinating to see how after being propped up in every way possible by media and DNC, she's so completely unlikeable that she lost even harder after all that exposure. The only way she'll ever be President is in Star Trek.

And now for some :marseysnoo: to round it off:

Kemp stands for Trump 2.0 and Stacey is like MLK Jr. but better and smarter and also a lawyer


I want her to win so badly. I crave for my state to progress actually for a change

Kemp will cheat his way to victory again. She would have won last time if he hadn’t sent so few voting machines to polling places in north Georgia

Kemp is stomping Abrams in the polls currently and is, barring some insane turn of events, absolutely going to win.

This is 100% spot on. All these people outside of GA are not remotely in tune with what is going on here. Just because Abrams is a Dem darling doesn't mean she is doing a good job

He also purged votes knowing that even if he lost in court it would take years and his stolen victory would stand as now evident.

Elections can be stolen, but only from black women. Interestingly, even most /r/politics users don't like her:

They both appeal to reddit a lot more than they do to their states' voters.


She can raise millions from out of state donors in California and New York and that looks good on headlines like this.


As a Georgian, she is not winning.

Another thread:

But Brian Kemp is such an butthole. And everything he does is what an butthole would do.

You can replace Brian Kemp with literally anyone in the GOP and the statement would still be accurate.


Abrams... Beto... Democrats need to stop nominating popular figures that only have a track record of losing key races

What they need to do is endorse progressive candidates but corporate medias like CBS, MSNBC and CNN won't let that

Show me a more progressive candidate than Stacey Abrams.

Can we Dems finally stop trying to re-run Dem candidates that lost last time? Seems too many in leadership think that because Biden ran a bunch of times and finally won, that that's a winning strategy in state races.

lol cope+seethe

Any woman in GA that votes for Kemp or any other Republican is a traitor to women everywhere. We must stand in solidarity together as the only group of people in the US that has ever had a right taken away by the government - in this case, by 6 people who were never elected by anyone.

You might want to google "Japanese internment camp"

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EFFORTPOST [effortpost] Dating Apps - The Greatest Well of Untapped Drama. Or "Why can't Reddit Spergs get laid?"

carp this'll be good, it's full of incredible retards

Digital Dating Environment

If you have been taken and/or have been touching grass recently, online dating apps are now the way that most people meet their partners. It's essentially taken what used to be a fairly time consuming process of meeting new people through mutual interests, and condensed it into a literal digital meat market. Most apps lie on a spectrum of how much they lean into this. If you're unfamiliar, or are currently dating and out of the loop, the main players are:

  • Tinder - The original swipe app. You're shown a photo album, a brief bio (usually a joke), and you can say yes or no by swiping left or right

  • Bumble - Bizarre feminist version of Tinder where women have to message first. Usually slightly better quality women, but they have to make the first move in a text and women are useless at this

  • OKCupid - The OG dating site, now mostly full of Filipina women looking for green cards

  • Hinge - The better dating app IMO. Premium allows for some pretty strict filters (education filter set to college or higher acts almost entirely like a fat filter, it's amazing). No swipe mechanic, you have to read a profile and like something specific about them, with a message attached if you want.


OKCupid used to run a pretty great blog back in the day before they got bought out by wokies. They used to run experiments on users and then publish the results. One of the more interesting ones was where they removed the bio of people's profiles at random, and saw what happened to their match rate.

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Absolutely fucking nothing

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They also tried removing people's pictures and matching them at random to see if they'd connect. On average, people had much longer and deeper conversations (increases in number of messages and average message length). Most women will only message you back if you're much better looking than them, which is kind of unsurprising. You would too if you were getting a lot of attention. When you take that away, and even if you go on a blind date, they're generally pretty happy.

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Then they turned the lights back on and showed everyone who they'd been talking to, and more than half of them instantly unmatched the other. The conclusion they drew was that people (as a general population) are exactly as shallow as their dating apps will let them allow.

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There also used to be a separate score for looks and personality, which were pretty much an exact match.


The whole point of this is to illustrate what turns the gears of online dating: it's photos.

Photos only.

And only the first photo.

As a personal anecdote, this girl I was really into broke up with me and I took a bunch of stupid posey photos to revamp what was a profile full of just average pictures to try and sleep with someone hotter than her. I played with lighting and shot composition. Didn't lose any weight or gain any muscle (5'11" 163lbs for ref, relatively fit) or change my bio at all. I went from one irl date maybe every 3-6 months, to 6 in a week. It's fucking nuts how much of a difference it makes.


Redditors and Not Getting Laid

That last section should not come as any kind of surprise and if someone posts that, please tell them to rope.

It is, however, news to redditards. Despite general public opinion, Zoomers and Millenials are having significantly less sex than previous generations and that's a good thing. I am consistently amazed at what people will show as part of their public profiles, especially to people they're trying to sleep with.

Here's some highlights:

And some women for fun too:

They also can't fucking text if they ever even get a match:

You'll hear a lot of shit about women only going for the top 10-20% of men on dating apps. This is the primary reason - most men are shit candidates. They look like this, take bad photos, give creepy ass intros and replies, and then don't get laid, and are completely surprised how this could happen.

What does this mean for drama?

Aside from the fact that most of these people I've shown are dorks, they post feedback threads pretty regularly. Most of them end up being threads about how "Oh your photos are fine, online dating's just hard!". Or they'll tell people that all they need to do is reorder their profiles.

I call on you, hard-working dramanaut, give these people the feedback they actually need. I will find you the first few, and all you need is to give them some helpful life advice. This is your chance to reaaally get creative with it. Here are some bad examples:

	
Instead of... (Real Reddit Comments!) Say This:
[It’s your look. Hinge is more of a relationship oriented app. It’s not tinder. Be yourself but just understand that’s probably why you aren’t getting matches.](https://old.reddit.com/r/hingeapp/comments/zdnjkv/im_not_good_with_the_prompts_instead_of_the_about/iz5olco/?sort=controversial) Bitch, you're fat as fuck. No wonder you aren't getting matches. Lose some weight and try again
[Not sure why your post is getting downvotes, but just wanted to say I think your pictures are pretty good man](https://old.reddit.com/r/hingeapp/comments/zgfwtg/25m_hinge_profile_review/izhphd7/?sort=controversial) Did you lose a bet, or are you trying to stay a virgin?
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