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god I wish I could just kill people

Like really just slaughter people get right into it like

:marseytrollgun::marseytrollgun::marseytrollgun:

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My Dox

Down with guns, up with :!marseytrain:s πŸ™πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™

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you will have s*x with ralsecado

you didn't have to see this but mods say i have to join house furry to post in /h/furry, truly 1984

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Sufjan Stevens - Vesuvius
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:marppy: Drama Report: 2024-03-19 :marseyminer:

Top Drama

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πŸ”₯πŸ”˜πŸ”˜πŸ”˜πŸ”˜S*x is binary, gender is an abstraction, you can β€œchange” your gend.../r/popularopinion (36K)54%1709
πŸ”₯πŸ”˜πŸ”˜πŸ”˜πŸ”˜$40k a year, 3 kids with a SAHM, life is good. /r/Millennials (297K)62%1895
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:marppy: autodrama: returning jobs to dramautists. :marseycapitalistmanlet: Ping HeyMoon if there are any problems or you have a suggestion :marseyjamming:

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Bipocs are superior to mayos, scientific test:
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They complain about cultural appropriation and whine when it's prevented. :marseylaugh:

I wouldn't be surprised to find the teacher is Black.

(OP) She is lmao

Complaining just to complain lmao

https://twitter.com/shes_radiant/status/1744103981599609012


She's internalized and is practicing anti-Blackness.

Being articulate and using the English language is anti-black? WOW πŸ˜‚ 🚩 Statements like this are really really sad.

https://twitter.com/pissedoffmandap/status/1744114178535587963


It's English slang, more specifically English internet slang. And type of slang is not usually acceptable in formal situations such as interactions with a professor

it's not "internet language" it's African American Vernacular English (AAVE) it's a dialect that should be respected.

A lot of it is popularized and adopted from memes and social YouTubers. The whitest kids in the suburbs talk this way, it is not really associated with African American culture

ouuu you're so ignorant it hurts. these phrases/words have been said in blk households, cities, neighborhoods, etc... wayyyy before the internet been a thing. like I said it's AAVE. That's like saying Spanish isn't a language from Spain because it's required in American schools

Were the slaves saying gyat

who said slaves were saying that? They probably was since English was beat into them. gyat is short for goddarn, see, stay outta black folks business.

https://twitter.com/theeevirgoatt/status/1744199942514618423

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I wonder who's gonna get Epstien'd DC Madam'd this time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Jeane_Palfrey

:#marseywrongthonk:

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EFFORTPOST The Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

ΛšΰΌΊβ˜†ΰΌ»*ੈAN ANALYSIS OF THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS CHRIST ΛšΰΌΊβ˜†ΰΌ»*ੈ

Who is the most famous historical figure? Who altered the path of human history forever? Who is the most quoted man ever, who is the most worshipped, who has made the biggest contributions to world philosophy? Only one name can be given as a genuine answer - Jesus.

In modern times, many have turned their backs on Jesus and his teachings, but his influence has yet to wane. I am here today to demonstrate that the story of Jesus is not a boring one. Instead, it is filled with plenty of drama, betrayal, humor, lust, and heroism. We'll be mainly looking at one event - his death - but to do this, we'll need to discuss the sociopolitical conditions that led to the Jew being crucified. To close off, we'll look at the medical side of his death to hopefully determine just what precisely killed him.

Our tale will involve the following main characters:

  • Jesus

  • Simon

  • Peter

  • Judas

  • Pontius Pilate

  • King Herod

As you understand, the Biblical story of Jesus Christ's life is steeped with supernatural beliefs and religious claims (some of which contradict each other). Consequently, it is hard to separate fact from fiction. To the best of my abilities, I will rely on secular historians, though, as you'll see, I have some problems with their research as well.

Enjoy!

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Part One - Setting the Stage

Who is Jesus Christ?

The individual we will be discussing is named Jesus. During his lifetime, Jewish individuals typically had one name, and if there was a second name it was related to their birthplace, father, or occupation. Hence, Jesus would have been called Jesus of Nazareth, or Jesus of Joseph, or Jesus the Carpenter. Commonly, he is referred to as Christ, which is derived from the Greek word Christos meaning β€œanointed”. The title references the fact that Jesus is believed to be an anointed Messiah.

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Quick notes from Holly!

The story of Jesus' life spans four books in the Bible: Matthew, John, Luke, and Mark. Though they agree on some pain points, they also present wildly differing claims at times, with some claims contradicting the claims of other Gospels.

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Matthew, Mark, and Luke are typically grouped as the Synoptic Gospels because they contain mostly the same narrative. John differs a lot, contradicting the Synoptic Gospels at many points. Was this a case of writers drawing from different sources? Have we been fooled by forgeries? You'll have to come to your own conclusions.

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His parentage is debated. It is widely believed that his mother is Mary, a Jewish woman from Nazareth. Jesus' earthly father is Joseph, a descendent of King David. Biblically, it is believed that Jesus was conceived via immaculate conception, and Mary had not known a man when fell pregnant.

It doesn't help that the Bible offers differing accounts of Jesus' genealogy across the four Gospels (more on that in a bit). In the Book of Matthew, we are treated to a patriarchal genealogy that traces Jesus' ancestry all the way back to Abraham and Sarah. However, in the Book of Luke, we find a longer genealogy that traces Jesus' ancestry back to Adam. It is as such:

  • Adam

  • Seth

  • Enos

  • Cainan

  • Mahalaleel

  • Jared

  • Enoch

  • Methuselah

  • Lamech

  • Noah

  • Shem

  • Arphaxad

  • Cainan

  • Shelah

  • Eber

  • Peleg

  • Reu

  • Serug

  • Nahor

  • Terah

  • Abraham

  • Isaac

  • Jacob

  • Judah

  • Perez

  • Hezron

  • Arni

  • Admin

  • Amminadab

  • Nahshon

  • Salmon

  • Boaz

  • Obed

  • Jesse

  • David

  • Nathan

  • Mattatha

  • Menna

  • Melea

  • Eliakim

  • Jonam

  • Joseph

  • Judah

  • Simeon

  • Levi

  • Matthat

  • Jorim

  • Eliezer

  • Jesus

  • Er

  • Elmodam

  • Cosam

  • Addi

  • Melchi

  • Neri

  • Shealtiel

  • Zerubbabel

  • Rhesa

  • Joannan

  • Joda

  • Josech

  • Semei

  • Mattathias

  • Maath

  • Nagge

  • Esli

  • Naum

  • Amos

  • Mattathias

  • Joseph

  • Jannai

  • Melchi

  • Levi

  • Matthat

  • Heli

  • Joseph

  • Jesus

We know that Jesus was of Jewish ethnicity, and likely had black hair, brown eyes, and brown skin. It is also somewhat certain that Mary gave birth to him in Bethlehem during the reign of King Herod.

So let's entertain the idea of a virgin birth for a moment. In modern times, this is possible without an issue through artificial insemination. Even in the past, however, Joseph could have easily impregnated Mary without having s*x with her. If they shared the same bed and he had a nocturnal emission, or if they practiced non-penetrative forms of intimate contact.

The other possibility, of course, is that Mary had s*x with someone other than Joseph, and then claimed immaculate conception. The most common form of the argument claims that Jesus' father was a Roman soldier named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera.

I tend to not believe this, mainly because it seems to be the case that most people did not believe Jesus was of virgin birth. In John 6, we hear the crowd say:

They were saying, β€œIs not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, β€˜I have come down from heaven'?”

My argument is that it would have been just as ridiculous then as it is now to make such a claim. If one fell pregnant, it would almost certainly not be the first excuse you jump to.


Did Jesus exist?

In my opinion, yes. Jesus did exist and he was the son of Mary. His father is unknown. One of the best sources of evidence for the historicity of Jesus is Tacitus who was a Roman historian and scholar. In his text Annals, he writes of the crucifixion of Jesus and the rule of Pontius Pilate. The following verse in particular has been taken into focus (translated from Latin):

>Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annals_(Tacitus)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Jesus

This is considered a non-Christian confirmation of the crucifixion of Christ. However, it should be noted that the authenticity of Annals has been contested by scholars such as Richard Carrier (who advocates for the theory that Jesus never existed and is pure myth), but it is generally accepted that it is authentic by most scholars.


Pontius Pilate and King Herod

Pontius Pilate was the governor of Judea, and he served under Emperor Tiberius. His rule was marked by tension between him and his Jewish subjects, historians note. The Jews, with their own God and culture, were offended by Pontius's desire to remove the Jewish imperial standard and replace it with Ceaser's image. The people revolted, and Pontius sent his soldiers to kill them, but they did not flinch. Thus, he discovered that he would have to negotiate with the Jews if he was to rule over them effectively. Strongarming wasn't going to work against a population who did not fear death.

He was enemies with King Herod, the ruler who called for all children under the age of 2 to be slaughtered, causing Mary and Joseph to flee. As you'd imagine, historians consider him to be a cruel, bloodthirsty, and tyrannical ruler.

These two figures, separately, had reasons to not like Jesus. This would have deadly consequences.

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Part Two - Killing the King

Jesus starts some drama

I do not wish to dwell too long on the life of Jesus and the events that occurred during his 33(?) years on Earth. Instead, I'd like to focus on the last days of his life, and the circumstances which led to this (mostly) peaceful man being nailed to a cross.

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Quick notes from Holly!

Jesus had predicted his crucifixion many times prior. Of particular note is Mark 30-32 which states the following:

Then they departed from there and passed through Galilee, and He did not want anyone to know it. For He taught His disciples and said to them, β€œThe Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of men, and they will kill Him. And after He is killed, He will rise the third day.” But they did not understand this saying, and were afraid to ask Him.

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Kind of an edgelord thing to randomly say without any elaboration.

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After raising Lazarus of Bethany from the dead, Jesus returns to Jerusalem and this is about the point where the true drama begins.

The miracle of the resurrection of Lazarus had drawn more believers to him than ever, and he was able to draw crowds wherever he went. He arrived riding a donkey which his disciples had gathered for him. Upon arrival, the crowds greet him with palm leaves, for they believe him to be the Son of God.

Not everybody was happy about this. Religious leaders, political leaders, and scholars felt threatened by the growing numbers turning to Jesus. Also, claiming you're the son of God is incredibly blasphemous. Most people would have been thoroughly offended by anyone making such a claim. Now imagine how a religious scholar would feel seeing a poor man drawing more crowds than a Rabbi while making those blasphemous claims! Hence, by the time Jesus arrived in Jerusalem, there was already tension.

It should be noted that Jesus wasn't particularly quiet about his arrival in Jerusalem, nor was he doing much to appease the authorities whom he knew despised him. He continued to preach his message, he publicly criticized those in power, and he kicked up a storm when he flipped tables in the table as he cursed those who had turned the place of worship into a moneylending spot. These were not the actions of a man who feared authority. It was positively suicidal.


The drama escalates

In the week leading up to the crucifixion, Jesus had the Last Supper.

During the Last Supper, Jesus is seated with his 12 disciples. These disciplines (also known as apostles) are:

1. Simon (also known as Paul)

2. Andrew (Simon's brother)

3. James

4. John (Brother of James)

5. Philip

6. Bartholomew

7. Thomas

8. Matthew (the tax collector)

9. James

10. Thaddeus

11. Simon (the Canaanite)

12. Judas

Now back to the Last Supper. Jesus breaks bread and says "Take, eat, this is my body.” He then pours wine and says β€œDrink from it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. I tell you, I will never again drink of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.” These actions form the basis of the Holy Communion which is practiced globally every Sunday. I have performed it several times, both as a believer and non-believer. Have you?

Jesus then predicts that he will be betrayed, with some Gospels specifically fingering Judas. Matthew 26:23–25 states:

He answered, β€œThe one who has dipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me. The Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that one by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that one not to have been born.” Judas, who betrayed him, said, β€œSurely not I, Rabbi?” He replied, β€œYou have said so.”

Jesus also states that Peter will deny him three times, which Peter denies. However, before the sun rises, Peter will be proven a liar. In the Gospel of John, we also get an account of Jesus washing the feet of his disciples.

Following the feast, Jesus goes to Gethsemane Garden with his disciples. There, he prays to God, begging that he does not meet the terrible ordeal that is coming his way. In Matthew 26 we read:

And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, β€œMy Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.” And he came to the disciples and found them sleeping. And he said to Peter, β€œSo, could you not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.” Again, for the second time, he went away and prayed, β€œMy Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.” And again he came and found them sleeping, for their eyes were heavy. So, leaving them again, he went away and prayed for the third time, saying the same words again. Then he came to the disciples and said to them, β€œSleep and take your rest later on. See, the hour is at hand, and the Son of Man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. 46Β Rise, let us be going; see, my betrayer is at hand.”

It is one of my favorite verses in the Bible. You can feel the fear and tension building as Jesus begins to lose his cool and gets desperate. Despite this genuine fear, his faith does not falter and he continues with the mission.

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Quick notes from Holly!

I hear you baying: "But what about Richard Carrier!" Frick him. Richard Carrier is a quack and a charlatan and he is widely discredited by fellow historians and scholars. Stop listening to pop intellectuals.

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Judas arrives with an armed mob and kisses Jesus which identifies him to the mob who then take custody of him. Many scholars and Christians have asked why Judas had to identify Jesus - couldn't they simply recognize the famous Messiah who was recognized by regular citizens when he entered Jerusalem? I have no answers. Not all his disciples abandon him, and some attempt to fight the crowd, but Jesus insists that they let him be taken peacefully.

He is then taken to Pontius Pilate, and the crowds demand his crucifixion. This is when the real drama starts. The drama didn't just occur during the trial of Jesus, but continued until today, resulting in us having quite a skewed view of what occurred when Jesus was crucified.


Jesus is put on trial

Once Jesus was under arrest, the guards blindfolded him and then beat him while telling him to prophesy who hit him. He is then taken to Jewish court where he is questioned on his claims of being the son of God and the king of Jews. Luke 22 reads:

As soon as it was day, the council of the elders of the people met together, both the chief priests and experts in the law. They brought him into their Sanhedrin and said, β€œIf you are the Christ, tell us.”

But he said to them, β€œIf I tell you, you will not believe, and if I ask you, you will not answer me or release me. But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God.”

They all said, β€œAre you then the Son of God?”

He said to them, β€œI am what you are saying.”

Then they said, β€œWhy do we need any more testimony? For we ourselves have heard it from his own mouth!”

After this point, we arrive at yet another contradiction in the Gospels. Some claim that Jesus was then taken to Caiaphas the high priest. However, John's Gospel claims Jesus was taken to Annas. Regardless, we know he was questioned by the priests regarding his blasphemous claims. Jesus didn't say much, perhaps knowing that nothing he said would change fate.

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Quick notes from Holly!

While Jesus was being beaten and questioned, there was also attention directed toward the followers of Jesus. Some remained loyal to him, including Simon who helped Jesus carry his cross.

Peter, on the other hand, deserted Jesus and denied him three times, just as the Lord had predicted. When he remembers the prophecy of his betrayal, he weeps. Jesus forgives him following his resurrection, but Peter's betrayal isn't what makes me uncomfortable about this story.

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Instead, I'm vexed by the idea that one can prophesize the actions of another. Does Peter have any free will? Was he doomed to deny Jesus three times specifically? Was there any chance that Peter could do otherwise, or was it the unchangeable plan of God? I have no answers.

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The next morning, Jesus is taken to Pontius Pilate. Most readers probably believe that Pontius was a meek man who respected Jesus. He did not want to crucify Jesus, and in fact he famously β€œwashed his hands” of the matter.

Well, that's not the whole story. There is no reason to believe that Pontius would be even vaguely against the idea of Jesus being killed. He was probably the one person who stood to gain the most from it. As we've previously discussed, Pontius was attempting to instill Roman rule over the Jews, and to have them recognize only Roman emperors as the highest authority. This was proving to be difficult due to the religiosity of the Jews, and brutality wasn't doing the trick. The more he disrespected the culture and religion of the Jews, the harder it became to control the population.

Hence, Pontius was in a position where he needed to get rid of Jesus without making it seem like he wanted to get rid of Jesus. It had to look like the people themselves wanted Jesus gone! The first step of this plan was to send Jesus to King Herod to be questioned. In doing so, he would gain favor with the King who he was enemies with, granting him greater political power. We learn this in Luke 23: 12

That day Herod and Pilate became friendsβ€”before this they had been enemies.

King Herod had wanted to see Jesus for a long time, not because he enjoyed his teachings, but because he wanted to know just who was brave enough to undermine his authority by claiming to be the Son of God. To discover that it was a mere bastard carpenter! Jesus did not answer King Herod's questions, and his soldiers mocked Jesus by putting a robe on him. This isn't just a random move. They were literally dressing him up as a king of Jews before he was to be crucified. This wouldn't be the death of just Jesus, but the death of all Messiahs.

Jesus was then returned to Pontius, who was ready with the next step of his plan. You see, it was Passover, and it was the tradition that the governor would free one prisoner during this time. So he appeared before the crowds and presented Jesus along with a prisoner named Barabbas. He then asks the crowd to choose who must be slaughtered.

This was a trick! Barabbas is referred to using a term that means β€œterrorist” or β€œrebel”. Barabbas was likely an individual rioting against Roman rule. The majority of the crowd would be sympathetic toward him! There was no choice here.

Secondly, Jesus was presented with a robe and he was called the king of Jews. If the Jews were spared, they would be saying: β€œYes, our king is a beaten bastard.” Of course, they denounced him, he had been humiliated and condemned by even the priests! Pontius knew this. He wasn't giving them an option - he was merely creating a situation in which the crowd would be electing to kill Jesus, not him.

In John 19, we see how Pontius directs the crowds to Jesus' kinghood specifically, goading the Jews into demanding the murder of their own savior:

β€œHere is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews.

But they shouted, β€œTake him away! Take him away! Crucify him!”

β€œShall I crucify your king?” Pilate asked.

β€œWe have no king but Caesar,” the chief priests answered.

Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified.

A little later, we see the significance of the sign:

Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross. It read: jesus of nazareth, the king of the jews. Many of the Jews read this sign, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and the sign was written in Aramaic, Latin and Greek. The chief priests of the Jews protested to Pilate, β€œDo not write β€˜The King of the Jews,' but that this man claimed to be king of the Jews.”

Pilate answered, β€œWhat I have written, I have written.”

I'd argue that Pontius isn't as innocent as he is typically portrayed. He didn't wash his hands of the situation, and he wasn't pressured by the Jews. He made a deliberate political move, and he did it in such a way that it did not seem like he was acting against the will of the masses.

Thus Jesus was set to be crucified.


The crucifixion of Jesus Christ

It is believed that Jesus was crucified on a Roman cross. This would mean his arms were outstretched. Typically, he is depicted with nails driven through his hands, though it should be noted that this would not support the human body, and a nail would rip through the soft flesh of the hand unless he was also fastened with rope. A nail was also driven into his feet, one on top of the other.

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Quick notes from Holly!

The ordeal did not begin with the crucifixion, far from it. Jesus was first flogged with a scourge. This alone killed many prisoners before they could even be crucified. Following this, Jesus was made to carry his cross to Golgotha. It has been estimated that a cross could weigh up to 135kgs, which makes it nearly unbelievable to consider that a tortured man could carry such a weight all the way to Golgotha.

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Jesus is unable to, and eventually, Simon does the heavy lifting.

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Jesus was placed between two Jewish criminals. In some versions of the Gospels, they jeer at Jesus with the crowd, while in other versions, one of the criminals repents. This marked the beginning of Jesus' ordeal on the cross.

There are seven sentences attributed to Jesus on the cross, and they're scattered throughout the four Gospels:

1. Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

2. Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

3. Woman, behold thy son! and Behold thy mother!

4. My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

5. I thirst.

6. It is finished.

7. Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.

Jesus died relatively quickly (about six hours), and his legs did not have to be broken. To verify that he was dead, a soldier drove a sword into his side.

Thus Jesus died.


What were the mechanisms of Jesus' death?

So if you were a coroner, what would you claim is Jesus' cause of death? Well, he's had nails driven through his flesh, so many would assume blood loss, but that's not the case. In fact, he wouldn't have lost too much blood from the nails themselves. Most healthy adult males could survive that just fine for 6 hours. If he did die from blood loss, it would have been from the lashings he received prior primarily.

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Quick notes from Holly!

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16996440693983483.webp

It was not like Jesus was unaware of the threat of crucifixion. Romans had frequently used crucifixion as a means to humiliate detractors and to strike fear into the masses. Crucifixions took place publicly, and they were designed for maximum pain and suffering. The bodies would then be left there for weeks and months until scavengers picked off the flesh and blood dried.

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Crucifixions on their own aren't particularly deadly. Yearly, folks voluntarily crucify themselves for six hours to experience the passion of Christ, and they are fine afterward, all things considered. If you were crucified as a healthy young male, it would take you days to die from exhaustion and thirst on a Roman crucifix, which is what happened to slaves who met that fate.

The most popular theory is that he died of asphyxiation. However, more recent research suggests that this wouldn't be the case with the Roman crucifixion. You can test this out for yourself. Stretch your arms out in a Y shape and breathe in. Now try again with your hands outstretched and held together above your head. You'll notice it is harder to inhale if your hands are above you.

I am of the opinion, as many modern scholars are, that Jesus' death was a combination of both blood loss from the scourging and exhaustion from being crucified. As Edwards and Hosmer summarize:

>Jesus of Nazareth underwent Jewish and Roman trials, was flogged, and was sentenced to death by crucifixion. The scourging produced deep stripelike lacerations and appreciable blood loss, and it probably set the stage for hypovolemic shock, as evidenced by the fact that Jesus was too weakened to carry the crossbar (patibulum) to Golgotha. At the site of crucifixion, his wrists were nailed to the patibulum and, after the patibulum was lifted onto the upright post (stipes), his feet were nailed to the stipes. The major pathophysiologic effect of crucifixion was an interference with normal respirations. Accordingly, death resulted primarily from hypovolemic shock and exhaustion asphyxia. Jesus' death was ensured by the thrust of a soldier's spear into his side. Modern medical interpretation of the historical evidence indicates that Jesus was dead when taken down from the cross.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3512867

Lastly, it should be noted that the nails used to crucify Jesus were likely reused on other people, as metal was very valuable at the time. They likely recycled Jesus's nails, as his clothes were also sold, as we learn in Matthew 27:35 -

When they had crucified him, they divided up his clothes by casting lots.

Consequently, we don't have too many relics of crucifixions in modern times, as the nails (and perhaps even wood) would have been recycled.


CONCLUSION

So that is the story of Jesus' death. There was plenty more drama that came. Women wept, saints rose from the dead, and darkness fell over the Earth (at least if you believe the supernatural claims of the Bible).

Of course, this isn't the whole story, and there are plenty of gaps that have been left. However, this should be sufficient content to help you wrap your head around this historical event. It should be clear at this point that I do believe that Jesus existed, and that he had a large following, and that he was crucified. I think the historical evidence is sufficient, and that claims to the contrary are often motivated by a desire to ridicule the Bible.

If you made it this far, thank you. These posts are my only means to communicate with the outer world. I get so lonely in my apartment that it feels like my heart is going to rip out of my chest. I don't know why I'm alive or what's the point of waking up every day when everybody hates you and you've been rejected. Emotions get too much, and I don't know what to do with myself. Then the blood flows.

Tune in next time when we FINALLY discuss Holly Willoughby's queuegate.

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Ron, 33, Nashville TN

Self-rated 3/10 situation

Personal Life:

  • Falling out with his parents

    • Says father was emotionally abusive/manipulative

    • Has since mended bridges with them somewhat?

    • Asked if he could move back in after getting a remote job, they said no

    • Good relationship with his mother, bad with his father, they are still married?

      • Mother makes 200'000?
  • Debt from early 20s moving out of his parents house

    • Story time about being a boozer - timestamp

    • Was van living for a little while so more money to party

      • Stopped in late 2019 early 2020 :marseythinkorino:
  • Addicted to Mountain Dew timestamp

    • Goes through 2 a day, doesn't buy from stores, just from gas stations or dunkin donuts?

    • "If it's a bad day I will go and get more"

  • "Do you have diabetes?" timestamp

    • "Not that I know of, I haven't been to a doctor in 5 years"

    • Blood sugar test timestamp

      • "I don't have diabetes by the way I just have all medical equipment possible because I'm afraid of something going.. bad"

      • New Caleb lore - he is terrified of needles and blood plus is some sort of paranoid

      • Apparently he does not have diabetes?

  • Brother had addiction stuff as well? (marijuana and alchy)

Career:

  • Tried to apply for real jobs out of school, never got callbacks :marseythinkorino:

  • Call center 40 hour week

    • $18 an hour
  • Starting a second job in a couple weeks

    • Variable, $18.50 after 5, $20 weekends

    • Also 40 hours?

    • Call center stuff but different from the other call center

  • Some online stuff

    • Runs DnD games online

      • 3 hours a piece depending on how much he needs to prep

      • $600 a month or so

        • 1 game ended
      • Using some site for this that pimps out DMs

      • Made 10k last year from this :marseypikachu2:

      • Runs these games through his phone? "Only reason I bought it"

      • uses Fiverr people to do stuff for it?

  • Got a cat recently, photo shown to camera timestamp

  • His mother gave him 1'300 total last month

Expenses:

  • Mountain Dew:

    • Unreal amounts of mountain dew more than $400 a month
  • Rent $1230

    • Low end, not a great neighborhood, pays for laundry not within complex?

Debts:

  • Discover Card (Card 1) Around $3000: timestamp

    • Had to put car repairs on it?

    • 4 tires and some maintenance stuff

    • Minimum monthly maybe $30? He's not certain

    • 25% interest

    • Had paid off the card with a personal loan years prior to the car repairs

    • Dunkin Donuts - 2 Dews for $4 "That's how they get you" :marseyxd:

  • USAA (Card 2) $7712:

    • 20% interest, $631 lost on interest this year

    • Did not spend anything on there

  • Costco (Card 3) $908:

    • Paid 218 but made 185 in purchases 14 in interest

    • Credit limit of 750

    • Thinks the purchases were all unnecessary

    • 30% interest

  • Car: 2010 Toyota Camry

    • 130'000 miles

    • $5438 left on it

    • 4.99% interest rate

    • Bought right before the pandemic hit

  • Personal Loan $18'173 timestamp:

    • 2 or 3 cards, and the rest of the loan balance of the van he had, has since sold Van

    • $584 min payment

    • originally 25'000

Student Loans:

  • Majored in Business?

  • Southern Hampshire University?

  • $38'900 federal student loans, Probably 470 minimum payment

  • These are why he decided to get a second job

Savings:

  • Checking

    • Gets money from his mother?

    • 26.76 => 5132 - 3918 => 1247

  • Business Checking account for his DnD thing:

    • "Cloak & Dagger LLC"?

Budget Section timestamp:

  • -$1231 between minimum budget and basic survival currently without the second job
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