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"I'm going to try it for the first time, do you have any reviews?"

"I looked at the list (a list of foreign men that members pass around) and it was the kid's dad."

"Is your peepee big?"

"Seongnam Pilot ○○○ Knowing Desi (Member Who Uses Dating App)?"

"I'm African and I'm not good at (s*x). The size was just like that."

The country's largest women-only community with 844,000 members has been embroiled in a controversy over the "women's version of the Nth room."

The 'Nth Room Incident', which broke out in February 2019, refers to a case of digital s*x crimes in which illegal pornography was created, traded, and distributed through a group chat room opened on Telegram. The victim was a woman and the perpetrator was a man. In the women's community, similar information is circulating, with only the genders of the victims and perpetrators reversed.

Community members were sharing detailed information about men they had met on dating apps that matched them with foreign men in the café, so-called "reviews."

Among them were minors. They post real photos of various foreign men and exchange information by obscenely mentioning the other person's appearance and genitals, such as "I have to do ○○", "I see ○○", and "I have seen this ○○○".

The so-called "U.S. Army Men Big Data Tank Count" list they shared in the café contained three pages of detailed information about U.S. soldiers. One member who seems to have taken the lead in making the list said, "I'm going to make it like an encyclopedia." There was also a "list of foreign men who use dating apps" shared among community members.

Attorney Kim Seung-hwan of GB Law Firm said, "Their actions may constitute a violation of the Information and Communications Network Act in that they are defamatory, and unauthorized disclosure of personal information may be punishable if it is done continuously or repeatedly under the Stalking Punishment Act."

According to the current law, a person who publicly discloses facts through an information and communication network for the purpose of slandering a person and defames another person shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine of not more than 30 million won, and a person who defames a person with false facts shall be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than seven years, suspension of qualification (occupational group) for not more than 10 years, or a fine of not more than 50 million won. A person who commits the crime of stalking shall be sentenced to up to three years in prison or fined not more than 30 million won.

Recently, the community took the lead in opposing the 2024 KXF The Fashion Festival, saying that it was an event that sexualized women. They called KXF a "prostitution expo" and joined a petition asking the local government to stop the event where KXF was scheduled to be held. Externally, while criticizing the sexual commodification of women, they point out that degrading men as sexual objects among themselves is not a double standard.

Community members opposed the KXF, saying, "It means not to do it in Korea at all. "Understand", "It's disgusting to look for other places", "I'm tired of it", "I'm suspicious why you can't do that", and "Dirty things". KXF, which features Japanese adult video (AV) actors, was eventually canceled after being "rejected by local governments and women's groups."

The sexual harassment approach of female community members towards foreigners also poses a risk of racism. In this community, foreign men are often referred to as objects of depersonalized sexual desire and consumption.

Koo Jeong-woo, a professor of sociology at Sungkyunkwan University, said, "There is a stereotype that men are the perpetrators and women are the victims of the so-called 'Nth room,' but this is an example that shows that women can be perpetrators at any time." He added, "Whether you are a man or a woman, you need to look at yourself to make sure that you are not participating in these sexual crimes."

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You don't need to watch the video - just know that she fricking hated the hotel and found it was not worth 6000 dollars, according to summaries I read.

The funniest part is the Disney adults in the sub who are coping hard. I don't need to link to anything because it's literally all over the front page. This is amplified by the base level of cope for the hotel closing.

It cost 6000 dollars for two nights in a shitty hotel with no windows and cruise ship size rooms btw

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It doesn't matter if this is retaliation for poking around, this is immoral and incredibly irresponsible. One bit flip could ruin your biggest sponsors. pic.twitter.com/OqATqymt9h

— JoshuaDoes for President 2024 (@TheNotesOfJosh) May 18, 2024

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Someone posted this gay teachoid tiktok making fun of blacc student attire/behaviour

this caused a spergfite between lards and poors, as well as olds and children: https://twitter.com/itsjustfatimah/status/1791576838394818780

it's because of the morning, it's because they can only afford 1 piece of clothing, it's because of the s-xhavers

europeepee don't understand what it's like to attend school for 6 hours a day:

https://twitter.com/judeochrstn/status/1791801321680748858

let people enjoy pajamas, only pajamas are comfortable

they're wearing pajamas because they're so focused on learning, and maybe they took a shower then put their pajamas back on

idk why they can't just say it's a teenage fashion choice and move on instead of making up a billion r-slurred reasons to justify it, but it's kind of funny

CNN via Iranian state media

No more killing girls for you bro.

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what are some examples of novels that criticize capitalism and that are considered classics? i'm genuinely curious (3)

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They're both TERRIBLE literature.  (47)

Really? How so?I never understood all the hate. Didn't finish the book, but it was pretty decent imho. Cool/creative story. (0)

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Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift is mostly a satire of the more left-wing Enlightenment thinkers and Whig Party politics. I'm more left-wing, and that was about the only piece of right-wing satire I've seen that I thought was actually done well. (46)

I am going off of very foggy recollections of my sophomore lit classes but would it be safe to place another of his works, “A Modest Proposal”, as more in line with modern day leftist thought? He's skewering the idea of helping the poor and hungry with state resources and (/s, obviously) advocates for feeding the poor and solving overpopulation with cooked babies. (0)

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Mishima is 100% hardcore right-wing. Even tried to stage a coup to restore the monarch and killed himself because it failed. (60)

To be fair, I think the word "staged" doesn't get nearly enough credit here. Mishima dedicated pretty much his entire adult life to the cultivation of his self as an aesthetic object, and it's hard not to see that including the manner of his death.It would be insufficient to call it "performance art", because that might imply that he wasn't somehow sincere in his stated politics or whatever, and I don't think that's true. But I don't think the point of the "coup" was ever to achieve a successful material change in government or anything like that; if anything, Mishima wanted to change people's consciousnesses through the wanton spectacle of his death.And maybe unintentionally, the way he died was beautifully ironic given the way we've valorised that spectacle vis a vis the image of his external politics and his philosophy of the aesthetic cultivation of the body: he failed to disembowel himself properly, his kaishakunin failed to behead him cleanly, and he died in agony. In the mome... (8)

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Crime and Punishment is weird because it keeps telling you over and over how stupid the communist character is but never once is he shown to be anything but very intelligent. (102)

I don't agree with Dostoyevsky's reason for that characterization, but from what I remember that character (I don't exactly remember if he was a communist or just a liberal/Russian nihilist) is comically myopic and stubborn in his worldview. For example, there is a period when a certain character dies and he goes on to lecture grieving family members about how there shouldn't be a burial rite (or something to that effect) because those are grounded in religious traditions which his brand of politics/philosophy rejects entirely. (Similar moments include him lecturing some women about not marrying IIRC.) I mean fine if you hold those views, but Dostoyevsky's "ridicule" of him works because he's (the character) so dogmatic, ridiculously over-the-top and downright inhumane about his feminism and atheism. Of course, for those of us who differ vastly in our worldview and beliefs from Dostoyevsky, none of this calculated ridicule will make his conservative religious pitch any more intriguing. (32)

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Sure, heinlein criticizes communism, but to extrapolate anti-Chinese racism from a critique of communism is an insane leap of logic and, I might add, mildly racist in and of itself. (0)

Here's a paper by a political science professor on East Asian xenophobia in Heinlein's works (not limited to Starship Troopers) https://journals.openedition.org/ejas/16749Heinlein comes from a different time, he came from a military family in the age of the Korean and Vietnamese war, and I know his politics over time changed some and he became more humanist in general over time, but his early works reek of racismIt's been a long time since I've read either book, but in one of the introductions to either Starship Troopers or Forever War, they had quotes from Heinlein where he was specifically critiquing Chinese communism. Sure, the way communism swept China was unique, as all revolutions are unique, but the singling out of it is more than suspect (2)

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Spal told me I have to post this or he'll twist my fricking head off. Also, new snappy quote that please @Aevann?? Anyway, two fricking r-slurs duke it out, enjoy !metashit <3

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Here's the source image, morons whining about "inflation adjusted" despite obviously having no clue what that means

Whole thread.

They need to adjust for inflation.

Now compare to COL for each generation.

This means nothing without accounting for inflation. It doesn't matter if younger generations are making double if the prices of everything has quadrupled.  For the pedants I. Just saying double and quadruple as examples, not literally. 

This fool is onto nothing whatsoever:

And most of those gains are going to previous generations via housing

This twerp tries to double down:

Now do adjusted for inflation and add food, fuel, housing and healthcare to the CPI. Not just rent, not just net healthcare profit, not excluding fuel and electricity while offsetting it with cheap TVs.

It is adjusted {and a bit more yapping here}

I specifically called those things out because CPI doesn't cover those things. "Rent equivalent", "Excluded for volatility", and rural excluded pricing.

It includes all of those things you conspiratorial goober.

Look up how CPI is calculated and I'll accept your apology as confirmation that someone learned something. You can't take inflation rates at face value.

{More yapping, walls of text}

This flop calls blue "red"

Lots of boomers in here can't handle the truth. Living now is Hard Mode compared to their experience.

Reminder that these mooks are certain socialism will solve all their problems and they're economic geniuses. Legitimately zero argument against locking them in gimp suits and milking them for stem cells btw.

This was my first time making a gif

I thought it was funny

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Any body of academic thought whose paradigmatic communication medium is video rather than text is prima facie suspect. Might you please link a written statement of the salient position(s) of any one of these gentlemen?

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I think it's pretty elitist to judge the quality of a content via whether it's in a book/journal or not. In fact, the recent wave of scientific fraud discovery shows that one can hide data manipulation pretty effectively in an academic journal. I'd much rather scientists spend their time making eli5 videos.

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Just curious, why do you write like that? Reminds when I was 11 and wanted to sound smarter on the internet.

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My reply is an attempt to address the original comment with precision. To diagram its intended meaning:

alternative theories of consciousness

"Any body of academic thought" [I accede the scientific legitimacy of the domain of discourse, rather than dismissing it.]

know where to go to find well-argued positions on the topic.

"whose paradigmatic communication medium" [This is the beginning of my challenge to the Original Commenter, by granting the information provided authoritative status, which they perhaps cannot fully defend.]

On YouTube you can find plenty of discussions

"is video rather than text"

it's particularly important to explore these discussions as dispassionately as possible if you regard materialism as the only theory of mind that has any scientific credibility or validity.

"is prima facie suspect" [The Original Commenter has asserted that discourse and engagement are important, yet provided only time consuming, low signal-to-noise sources of information.]

As Christopher Hitchens reminds us in his legendary oration on John Stuart Mill and free speech [2]

"Might you please link a written statement of the salient position(s) of any one of these gentlemen?" [The only written citations are 1) generic and 2) ancillary to the core topic. I invite the Original Commenter to further his argument more substantively, without demanding exhaustive citations.]

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OK, let me rewrite it:

Any body of academic thought whose paradigmatic communication medium is video rather than text is prima facie suspect. Might you please link a written statement of the salient position(s) of any one of these gentlemen?

Academic content is usually in text, not video. Do you have links to written work from them?

Shorter and the exact same meaning. Also doesn't sound like you've been perusing your thesaurus all day.

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No, the second approach's meaning is more obtuse. What does "usually" mean? Are there acceptable alternatives? If content is in an alternative mode of communication, is it acceptable?

These vagaries permitted in your revision are clear and inherent in the original commenter's motion. Therefore, I submit your adjudication of "shorter and the exact same meaning" is woefully superficial in it's drive for simplicity, to the point there is no thought left that is clear in the original garden. Further, exact and technical communication is what separates Hacker News commenting from the hordes of subreddits that thrive on imprecise babble.

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At minimum, this does not capture that I _am_ challenging the Original Commenter ("prima facie suspect") to more rigorously defend his position, but doing so respectfully. "One salient" written source is a carefully chosen framing: the OC cannot meet it by replying with support peripheral or meta to the main argument, but neither can he dismiss my request as burdensome, demanding multiple links.

The proposed revision suffers from its terseness, losing both nuance and completeness.

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Communication is about being understood. Not about crafting the perfect sentence. Even if you craft the perfect sentence, that will be the perfect sentence _for you_, and it might be completely lost on many people, some perhaps even more intelligent than you.

The subtext of "Academic content is usually in text, not video" is "I don't trust this because it's in video, not text". Now if you say that is not clear, sure, but the subtext of your comment is "I opened a thesaurus and tried to seem smart", which is why this conversation derailed here. You can't ignore the subtext to craft a mathematically perfect sentence..

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Communication is about being understood.

The subtext of "Academic content is usually in text, not video" is "I don't trust this because it's in video, not text". Now if you say that is not clear, sure

Indeed, relying on the implicit when the explicit is sufficient [0] does a disservice to one's readers, in whose ability and charity to comprehend my surface text, without presuming confounding subtextual meaning, I have every confidence.

[0] It is not always; some things can only be gestured at, not grasped.

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I hope some day you realize how cringe your comments are.

There's more in there... !clinklickers but I got sick of trying to copy the formatting right because the HNewses also love their >

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